{"id":643,"date":"2014-09-01T18:00:39","date_gmt":"2014-09-01T17:00:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/eyrelines.energion.net\/?p=643"},"modified":"2014-09-01T18:00:39","modified_gmt":"2014-09-01T17:00:39","slug":"purgatory-nietzsche-and-groundhog-day","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eyrelines.energion.net\/?p=643","title":{"rendered":"Purgatory, Nietzsche and Groundhog Day"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Inasmuch as my various mystical experiences have given me any really clear picture, perhaps the clearest has been one of judgment. I saw judgment as, in reunion with God, becoming conscious (in a timeless moment) of all I had done in my life to that point from both sides, that is to say from my own part and from that of those with whom I had interacted. Needless to say, this was not a comfortable experience. It might have been an intolerable one had it not been for the simultaneous assurance of love and forgiveness, which might be called &#8220;salvation&#8221;, I suppose. The implication might be that this is an eternal consciousness, as it is God&#8217;s consciousness of me.<\/p>\n<p>It links in well, I think, with Richard Beck&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/experimentaltheology.blogspot.co.uk\/2012\/05\/holiness-in-heaven-need-for-purgation.html\">concepts of purgatory<\/a>. Prof Beck<a href=\"http:\/\/experimentaltheology.blogspot.co.uk\/2006\/11\/why-i-am-universalist-summing-up-and.html\"> is an universalist<\/a>, working from the point of view of theories about God and a close reading of scripture. I go along with all he says, but have also had this vision of that universal reconciliation; the only small caveat I have had is that I think for some few people the pain of the kind of vision I sketched out above, extended to a timeless eternity, might be too hard to contemplate, to bear, to accept. For them, perhaps eternal separation or annihilation may be the only answer. The Theologia Germanica says &#8220;Nothing burns in Hell save self-will; therefore it has been said &#8216;put of your self-will and there will be no Hell&#8217; &#8220;. For some, there may not be anything but self-will left. This, incidentally, works well with twelve-step, in which &#8220;self will is at the root of all our defects of character&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been listening over the last few days to a set of lectures by the late Rick Roderick, to which I was pointed by an article from 2009 on Homebrewed Christianity. One of these dealt with the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=u7BRUs4Cecg&amp;index=21&amp;list=PL48B9B94CDCC1DD2A\">&#8220;Eternal Recurrence&#8221;<\/a>, which Nietzsche saw, I think, as an encouragement to reinvent yourself really well. The idea is that you are fated to relive your life, endlessly repeating it, <em><strong>exactly the same<\/strong><\/em> as you live this one.<\/p>\n<p>If I needed a nastier concept than an eternal consciousness of my failings, this is it. Perhaps Nietzsche was describing a consciousness similar to mine, perhaps he had a glimpse further than I have had. I hope not, that we are not in fact fated to an eternal <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Groundhog_Day_%28film%29\">Groundhog Day<\/a>, but without the slim possibility of breaking out of the cycle which the film offers.<\/p>\n<p>I don&#8217;t think so; the ecstasy of union is probably enough to outweigh anything, and I think this picture requires a greater sense of self, of self-will than is possible. Self-will does, after all, burn&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>In passing, is it just me, or could Rick Roderick be Slavoj Zizek&#8217;s long lost twin, brought up in West Texas?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Inasmuch as my various mystical experiences have given me any really clear picture, perhaps the clearest has been one of judgment. 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