{"id":855,"date":"2015-10-16T12:27:59","date_gmt":"2015-10-16T11:27:59","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/eyrelines.energion.net\/?p=855"},"modified":"2015-10-16T12:27:59","modified_gmt":"2015-10-16T11:27:59","slug":"uncaused-causes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/eyrelines.energion.net\/?p=855","title":{"rendered":"Uncaused causes&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I<a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/13.7\/2015\/10\/15\/448839381\/could-all-really-come-from-nothing?utm_source=facebook.com&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_campaign=npr&amp;utm_term=nprnews&amp;utm_content=2040\"> found a piece<\/a> on my FB feed today on the origin of the universe, written by a Physicist. &#8220;What was the cause of the Big Bang?&#8221; it asks.<\/p>\n<p>I find it slightly surprising to find that from a Physicist, to be honest. The author will know well that if there was indeed a &#8220;Big Bang&#8221; (and it seems overwhelmingly likely that there was, despite the criticism that it has to have been a &#8220;one off&#8221; event which can&#8217;t be replicated so as to produce additional experimental data), the mathematics of the situation demand that there be a singularity at the origin, a point beyond which there is no space and no time.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve become used to the question from laymen &#8220;So what caused the Big Bang?&#8221;. Everything we experience in normal existence, after all, seems to have a cause, and this is a cataclysmic event which we detect at the earliest point in time.<\/p>\n<p>The thing is, the whole notion of cause demands that there be event a which causes event b, and event a has to be before event b, i.e. earlier in time. When it comes to the Big Bang, however, there is no &#8220;earlier&#8221; to look at. The idea of &#8220;earlier&#8221; is impossible, and so the idea of a cause for it is equally impossible.<\/p>\n<p>That can require some getting the head around for most of us. However, in the case of a Physicist, ideas of the random (in which you cannot say something was &#8220;caused&#8221; because the same supposed cause could have produced a variety of results including the one observed) are prominent. So is the concept of the &#8220;Dirac soup&#8221;, an universe of elementary particles in which particles pop into existence and out of existence on a purely statistical, random basis; that too seems to be experimentally verifiable.<\/p>\n<p>More even than that, however, is a set of observations in particle physics which seem to give the lie to the whole concept of causation; particles can influence each other at a distance simultaneously, being &#8220;quantum paired&#8221; and a change in circumstances can actually have an effect earlier than the cause (in the case of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sciencedaily.com\/releases\/2015\/05\/150527103110.htm\">this experiment <\/a>by altering the situation after a particle has passed a double slit).<\/p>\n<p>In the circumstance, it surprised me a little to find a Physicist writing about the &#8220;cause of the Big Bang&#8221;. Clearly there was and could be no &#8220;cause&#8221;, because time as well as space just &#8220;happened&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Theologians will probably want to say that as God is atemporal, a cause remains possible. The thing is, &#8220;cause&#8221; is still an incoherent idea unless one postulates another time-like dimension experienced only by God, and at that one to which God is subject, i.e. experiences as a constraining factor. I suspect most theologians who go down this route are not going to want to concede that God can be constrained by any dimension&#8230; If, with God, there is no &#8220;before&#8221; and no &#8220;after&#8221;, then with God there is also no &#8220;cause&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>And yes, I know this all throws a huge spanner in the concept of God as creator, at least if you interpret it as &#8220;creatio ex nihilo&#8221;, creation out of nothing. The concept of creation, too, is a time dependent one. I can see little option but to think in terms of creation as a process in which God may well be involved (and I am confident that whatever it is that is God is fundamental to that process), but which it is impossible to say that God originated.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I found a piece on my FB feed today on the origin of the universe, written by a Physicist. &#8220;What was the cause of the Big Bang?&#8221; it asks. I find it slightly surprising to find that from a Physicist, to be honest. 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